Good article about rolling coal and politics

"WiscoProud" (wiscoproud)
09/09/2016 at 10:29 • Filed to: None

http://www.vox.com/2016/9/9/12843…

Vox is pretty hit or miss, but I think this article was interesting. Basically it talks about the socioeconomic group that likes rolling coal, and how they perceive their “rights” to do so, and any effort to ban it being “government overreach”.

Full disclosure, I think rolling coal for the purpose of annoying others is idiotic. If your diesel produces soot as a byproduct of a performance run (tractor pulls), so be it, but making your truck pump out black smoke to harass others is just dumb.

DISCUSSION (20)

Party-vi > WiscoProud
09/09/2016 at 10:37

People who roll coal are purposefully modifying their vehicles to bypass emissions systems for on-road vehicles. I truly wish people that rolled coal would try to suck-start a shotgun.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > WiscoProud
09/09/2016 at 10:38

It’s hard to have a performance tune that doesn’t roll a little bit of coal. under some circumstances. Any use of the far end rednecky roal-coal-for-lulz to tar (ha) the ability to mod one’s engine as inherently pointless and thus TO BE B& is dishonest, but that’s the way things are headed.

Also:

>good article

>Vox

Kinja'd!!!

NostalgicCarLife > WiscoProud
09/09/2016 at 10:44

Or to sum it up in one sentence: Some people are stupid enough to be amused and impressed by smoke.

WiscoProud > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
09/09/2016 at 10:45

That's the problem, the people who roll coal are going to piss off the public to the point that legislation will be passed banning any modification to emission systems.

jmalek > WiscoProud
09/09/2016 at 10:50

I tend to lean toward the banning of rolling coal, but I disagree with the limitations that a lot of people want to see on performance enhancements of diesels to make it happen. “Smoke switches” and the like are downright absurd, and should be outright banned, but when it comes to using extra fuel to spool the turbo, I do not have a problem with that so long as it serves a useful purpose. One of the first encounters I had with a performance diesel was Bank’s Duramax-powered road racing truck, and one of their stated accolades was that it is able to achieve it power and performance with almost no excess fuel whatsoever, granted they had to make the thing turn 5500rpm to do it. I think it comes down to “how much is too much”, and in this situation that becomes a very carbon-covered gray line that is difficult to enforce or even interpret.

Also, in regards to the Limbaugh quote:

“The Four Corners of Deceit: government, academia, science, and media. Those institutions are now corrupt and exist by virtue of deceit. That’s how they promulgate themselves; it is how they prosper.”

Woooow this guy is mental.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > WiscoProud
09/09/2016 at 10:52

Frankly, idiots can often be likened to cancer and the laws to stop them can be likened to chemotherapy. In other words, to get rid of the bad you often have to lose some good.

Example: Stop signs. Yields are often too loose of a regulation, leading to people just blowing through because it really doesn’t mean anything. It literally means don’t go in front of someone but don’t stop. Which translates into “stupid” as “go” when really the intention is basically a rolling stop. Having one way stop/yield and the other drive through seems to kneecap anyone who lacks confidence in driving (read: quite a fuckload of people). To make it all simple we have stop signs, and because it’s black and white it largely eliminates the problems, but it also means that the reasonable behaviour that the yield was aiming for is now both illegal and easily ticketable.

Bonus: roundabouts are stem cell research.

And on their view that the coal rollers have a right to do so, I have this to say in comparison to what is above. As much as I see the concept of a stop sign as rediculous, and would be really pissed off if I was pulled over for a slight rolling stop, I can see the point and I can’t really see any alternative until roundabouts are embraced. If you slacken the law (officially) the law becomes useless. If the stop sign rules were officially relaxed (as opposed to officer discretion) it creates the grey area of “what exactly is a rolling stop”. Likewise, I have no trouble with the diesel owner who gets pissed off, floors it by someone, and gets them sooty as a result. Diesels produce smoke/soot when they’re working hard, period. Only the quantity varies. I also have no problem with tuning for power, which will result in more soot. Where I have the problem is with tuning specifically for smoke. It’s idiotic, wasteful with no real result, and just generally being a troublemaker. But you can’t write a law covering one without the other. An officer can’t tell the difference between “power coal” and “douche coal”. We’re left again with officer discretion, which is unsatisfactory place to be, but until the “stem cell research” gets going and we get a way to make cheap easy power from diesels without smoke and soot, it’s the best place to wait it out.

TL;DR: Re-read first sentence and ponder it.

Urambo Tauro > WiscoProud
09/09/2016 at 10:52

Rolling coal is new; it just caught on a few years ago. It does not improve the performance of a truck. It has no practical application or pragmatic purpose of any kind. It is purely aggressive, a raw expression of defiance: I can pollute your air, for no reason, and no one can stop me.

That pretty much sums it up right there. Being an asshole for the sake of being an asshole is... WTF, I’m at a loss for words here.

Urambo Tauro > WiscoProud
09/09/2016 at 10:53

THAT’S what I fear the most about all this.

Rykilla303 > WiscoProud
09/09/2016 at 10:53

Rolling coal is stupid. But i kinda like these idiots. Stick it to the man even when it’s stupid. Also, those that work on our own cars are a dying breed, we gotta take care of our own.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > NostalgicCarLife
09/09/2016 at 10:55

Kinja'd!!!

O RLY?

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > NostalgicCarLife
09/09/2016 at 10:55

To add fuel to the fire in one word: Burnouts.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
09/09/2016 at 10:57

YISS

NostalgicCarLife > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
09/09/2016 at 10:58

There’s a lot more to a burnout than smoke. Those of slightly higher intelligence also enjoy wheel spin.

WiscoProud > Rykilla303
09/09/2016 at 11:00

Here's a different angle: People rolling coal are starting to annoy the general public to the point that they may pass legislation banning any changes to the emissions or fueling systems, screwing all of us over.